[QUOTE=Mequa;134903]I've been there, on the receiving end of it. Disgust is too mild a term. I know what it feels like to hate another human being so strongly that I would wish for their death.
As a man, when women have done that to me, I've been shamed as "weak" and a "pussy" for, well, not having a thicker skin, not taking it in my stride, not shaking it off, and not putting my big boy pants on for not shutting my mouth about the behaviour of women who have treated me in exactly that way. You know, for when someone decides to string me along in a manipulative way, prey on my genuine kindness, then slam the knife in my back and gloat about having got away with it.
While painting me as the bad guy who has just got what is coming to him somehow, who clearly hates women and has mommy issues for daring to criticise the behaviour of a female.
And I just got told by a feminist in a chatroom that I am harming women by making a big deal about hatred of men...[/QUOTE]
Oh, by the way, with me it isn't about any one person in particular. It's the whole entire gay community -- the whole gay scene. Hundreds of people at minimum. What I'm realizing is, I always noticed, first of all I am quite attractive, so there should be no reason why I am not popular among SOME sort of crowd. And my personality, also, is very likable. I can tell people genuinely like me when they meet me or get to know me. Still, that did not stop pretty much all gay men from either shunning me, or only meeting up with me to abuse me or otherwise manipulate me. And what's absolutely horrifying is to realize, practically every last one of them knew I was being targeted as part of a criminal scheme -- and they all did their part to manipulate me into situations where I could be abused, and then discard me like a soiled glove afterwards.
And now, of course, I am being utterly shunned -- and, the odd thing is, I suspect it's because I am alive, I am not going to be murdered, they figured that out, and probably the situation will be something where the perpetrators will be brought to justice in the end.
Now, you know how it is, for the longest amount of time I sort of was able to be convinced that most gay men perhaps didn't know what was going on, and may have genuinely thought I wasn't a desirable person. Now I realize, they knew all along I was a decent person, etc., and they knew all along that I was being targeted by bad people, and practically every last one of them only jumped at every chance to aid and abet the perpetrators and use me to the max. That is literally true. Given a chance to distance themselves from some of the most despicable, evil, immoral sociopathic abuse -- they all jumped at the chance to participate in it. Or maybe not all -- just a lot. Meanwhile, those who didn't jump at the chance to participate in abuse still did their best to be passive enablers at best.
I think, the way it is, when things start to turn around for me in such a way so that they can no longer pretend not to know the truth, then they behave like bratty sulky children -- angry that they aren't going to get away with it and trying their best to stick it to me in the nastiest passive aggressive ways they can think of. And that literally is what I am dealing with now. A lot of really nasty games. Fake interest, get me to start to talk to them, then abruptly cut me off. Stuff like that. And what's funny is, I am reminded of someone I talk to occasionally about the situation who kind of hinted to me that she knew "they are being even more evil to you than they were before." Or, in other words, no amount of effort to try to appeal to anyone's good side, to anyone's sense of honor, decency, right or wrong can have any effect on them -- other than to make them act even more evil than they did before.
Every now and then I get treated to a little bit of faux decency -- but laden with a different kind of abuse: passive aggressive sneaky abuse rather than brazen up front obvious abuse. Of course, I think the biggest problem is, there are a large number of gay men as well as crooked cops and all sorts of other powerful people who have done really horrible despicable things to me -- which also include some very serious crimes. And they are all "hooked into" the scene, know a lot of people, and it just works out so gay men know, behave despicably to me, and they will maintain their social standing. Treat me with even a modicum of decency -- and everyone will turn their backs on them and ostracize them. I wonder if that might not be what Hannah Arendt meant when she referred to Eichmann and other Nazis in Nazi Germany as evil in a banal way -- with their motives being solely that they "wanted to belong."
And another thing that's interesting. Before, every now and then a few guys would treat me semi-normally. And I think that was to try to pull the wool over my eyes and manipulate me into not understanding that I really couldn't trust anyone not to do their damnedest to take advantage of me. You know how it is, you can't completely shun someone if you want to go manipulate that person into putting himself in situations where he can be subjected to all sorts of horrible and evil abuse. Every now and then you have to arrange for someone to give them a glimmer of hope that if they keep trying to meet people, they'll find someone who doesn't abuse them in an evil way. And now nobody treats me normally. But it's sort of like a "we now know you are onto us -- so we aren't going to even bother trying to manipulate you anymore, because we know it won't work." But what that also means is, absolutely no attempt to show even a modicum of decency. It's sort of like the whole gay community knows I am onto them -- and it's not worth it for them to put up even a minimal front of fake decency now. They can drop the act now.
I mean, obviously there are a few here and there dotted around who are not part of that whole disgusting scene. But it's not very many. See, this all has to do with the government, and the way with identity politics and all, systematically criminal behavior in the gay community becomes almost universal -- even while certain crimes are simply never prosecuted. Have a criminal police force -- and you end up with a criminal culture. Certain queen bees who are criminals call the shots -- and everyone falls in line.
Same thing as with rape victims, male or female. The female rape victims who get ganged up on are ones who have been designated targets by various queen bees -- who, in today's world, are women, or if not women, at least women play a very important and crucial role in covering it up and aiding and abetting the perpetrators.
The feelings of utter disgust come in when you realize, it's not you, it's them. Like, ok I never needed to convince anyone I was a desirable person. Nobody ever thought badly of me. It wasn't that. They knew the truth -- and did it anyway.
That, by the way, is something I remember this woman who counseled me a lot when I was going through the worst of this abuse told me. She kept telling me "they know -- but they do it anyway. That's terrible. You need to believe in yourself." And she also told me, she knew all about what it was about -- because a lot of the same kinds of abusive things done to me had been done to her when she was younger. And, I ought to note, it seems she must have had no choice but to cover it up, like a lot of people.
What's interesting, though, with the gay community is, a whole lot of it is just one of those "which way the wind is blowing" thing. Everyone is calculating, and the "thing to do" these days (aka, the way to treat me these days) is to treat me like shit, but in a passive aggressive way rather than the more blatant kinds of abuse people engaged in before. However, the wind could easily starts blowing in a different direction, and then all the same people, instead of shunning me, would start falling over themselves trying to placate me. In fact, when I first hired a lawyer, that's exactly what happened. I got deluged with emails from gay men all over, from morning til night, all fawning on me, sucking up to me, all wanting to get the opportunity to placate me with sexual favors and etc. And I had to turn every one of them down, because literally I had had too many close calls by then and, by that time, I knew if I wasn't able to get a lawyer involved, I would end up dead. Or, even if I didn't end up dead, they weren't going to stop the abuse until I did something about it.
I think it was a few hundred people who were all trying to placate me with sexual favors in hopes of dissuading me from hiring an attorney, and then when it became clear I wasn't going to be dissuaded, just as suddenly they all cease any and all such temporary interest. Which, in and of itself, is just another example of the utter sickening morals of the gay community. And, of course, there are other times when I've gone through similar periods of being sucked up to like that for awhile, only to have it all cease later on. But, that's the thing about it. It's so fake and so superficial. No desire to be genuine. Just calculate how you treat someone according to what way the wind is blowing and what you calculate is the best way to use someone in the moment.