Saturday March 7, 2015
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My personal issue with all these MGTOW InCels is they share almost none of my core beliefs about anything. Im loathed to self identify as member of a movement (MGTOW) that's being flooded with all these bitter unfucked Elliot Rodgers types...who actually seem to think making any sort of effort to better yourself in life is 'selling out' or pussy worshiping, who think women are wired 'wrong', and that withholding from them a dick they don't want anyway is the first step in reprogramming their minds...
MGTOW guys who think they are part of some sort of collective class action and on some sort of mass marriage strike that'll bring about some sort of MRA revolution in western culture.
Personally I find it hard to square my own beliefs with the beliefs of these kinda guys, or to embrace the idea that I'm part of the same movement they are. They are the reason why I'm increasingly inclined cast off the MGTOW label and let them have it.[/QUOTE]
Hold on one minute.
The whole problem with "making any effort to better yourself in life," is, we live in a particular kind of system in this country where, when they want to use you for whatever utilitarian purpose they have, it's all about using incentives to make you jump through hoops. Personal incentives. Like nobody will be your friend because you are being used. And that's like, ok I don't want any friends, if this is what people are like.
Except, recall, nobody is going to do that to you unless they need you in some way. They will treat you like shit, all as part of a big bluff designed to convince you you are nothing and have no choice but to go along with them. But it's just bluff. They need people to call them on it.
But, I think above all, you need to do a better job articulating what you mean when you refer to the "toxic nature of women." First of all, I don't think this toxicity is limited to women but, rather, permeates our whole society. It is one where people live according to such massive lies, lead people on emotionally and employ any number of other manipulative and dishonest tactics, only to discard them in the most sickening sociopathic ways, so much so that when you realize it and understand it, the amount of disgust you feel over the behavior you understand is just mind boggling.
Except, more people need to put their foot down and just refuse to go along with it. Nobody should be buying into or cooperating with a system that is fundamentally immoral like that if they don't want to. The system got that way in the first place because of people who think they have no choice but to go along with it. But I don't believe in that.
Furthermore, another problem with this whole system that engages in immoral behavior -- and then wants their victims to come crawling back to them and pretend they didn't do what they did is, fundamentally what's going on is a bunch of bullshit and a bunch of bluff. I'm reminded of these feminists who get raped, horribly abused by crooked cops and by other feminists, and who then voluntarily agree to cover up the truth, distort the truth, and push the same feminist agenda responsible for their horrible victimization -- by people who say things like "you can never fix what they did to you in the past -- but if you don't go along with their agenda and help strengthen this evil system, they will destroy the rest of your life too, so do what they want you to do, so you can salvage the remaining years you have left."
Shouldn't more people go and just put their foot down and say "you are evil, and I'm not playing ball with this?" It's obvious, women won't do it. That's why our current system loves women and wants to hobble men as much as possible. Because there are men out there who WILL do that. And that's a threat to the system.
The more the better.
More importantly, it's about being true to yourself.
Respect is earned.
Disrespect is earned.
If you have no respect for others because they earned your disrespect, then you should behave accordingly.